extrapenguin: Northern lights in blue and purple above black horizon. (Default)
[personal profile] extrapenguin
In light of recent OTW revelations (full receipts at [personal profile] synonymous, tl;dr is their Trust & Safety practices are a nightmare and their response to a whistleblower is to have Legal commit defamation by implication heavily implying that volunteer was behind the CSEM spam attacks last year):

[personal profile] satsuma posted about posting, sharing, and saving fic outside AO3; the most useful might be [personal profile] melannen's How to Make Your Own Fanfiction Archive (using NeoCities), and [tumblr.com profile] nianeya's AO3 works downloader (apparently it'll page through all subpages automatically? neat)

I might spend the weekend scraping the HTML of my works from AO3 and then making my own NeoCities page – [personal profile] tei has even set up a fanfiction webring! – as a form of participating in a past I skipped over. I might also slide into other applicable archives. (Melannen is archiving small book fandom fic! I have a bunch that fit the bill.)

ETA: I made one! Extremely bare, but upcoming.

Date: 2023-06-02 18:21 (UTC)
lannamichaels: Astronaut Dale Gardner holds up For Sale sign after EVA. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lannamichaels
I've been using nianeya's tool the last couple of days and I will note that it's very finicky. I couldn't use the most recent version of python, and had to go back to 3.10.8 instead. I've also had to delete and re-unzip a few times, including once when I mistyped my password. Having a password is only to get locked fics, so I gave it the username and password for an old account I'd made once when I was testing things.

It does page through all subpages automatically, but you should check the counts to make sure it got everything. I've had to rerun it to get everything, but it doesn't redownload fics already in its folder, so it won't get everything a second time. I clear out the fics anyway and put them into folders by fandom and author, but if you want to re-download a WIP that updated, make sure to delete the old file first.

Its killer features for me are 1) the fics are retitled so it starts with the fic ID, which means I don't end up with "Double Drabble.pdf" and "Double Drabble (1).pdf" from other download methods cropping the file names, and no idea which is which, or, worse, overwriting, and 2) it will download the HTML easily. My original method of AO3 downloading was to shove all the links into my download manager, but it ignores html files. And then I used the DownThemAll firefox extension, but that had the same issue with file names. That program automatically retitling the fics and putting in the ID number is worth the headache of getting that program to work.

Date: 2023-06-02 18:30 (UTC)
melannen: Commander Valentine of Alpha Squad Seven, a red-haired female Nick Fury in space, smoking contemplatively (Default)
From: [personal profile] melannen
Does it download just the web pages, or does it download the actual export downloads? I'm hoping to do a lot of epub downloads from AO3 once I get some ducks in a row, but I couldn't tell from a skim of the docs what that tool actually downloads (I assume just the webpages?)

Date: 2023-06-02 18:33 (UTC)
lannamichaels: Astronaut Dale Gardner holds up For Sale sign after EVA. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lannamichaels

It gets the download files from the download button. You can tell it which you want; I told it html, epub, and pdf. And it will remember those selections, which is nice. I'll send you an email with a sample, which will also show you what the auto file names are (don't trust it to necessarily get an author's full username).

It's a really cool tool! But I very nearly gave up on it from trying to get it to work the first time.

Date: 2023-06-02 18:36 (UTC)
melannen: Commander Valentine of Alpha Squad Seven, a red-haired female Nick Fury in space, smoking contemplatively (Default)
From: [personal profile] melannen
Oh, cool! Well, maybe it'll be worth fighting it to work, then. (I have a tool I was playing with that could do the scraping the page and pulling downloads - but I couldn't figure out the password security stuff, which is well beyond my coding ability.)

Date: 2023-06-02 22:10 (UTC)
dhampyresa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
Thank you for the links.

Date: 2023-06-03 19:27 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
I really love that we're reinventing webrings, OMG.

as a form of participating in a past I skipped over

Hee! Great way to put it. I never had a website back when that was the thing, but I'm feeling very nostalgic over it all as well. *g*

Date: 2023-06-04 03:04 (UTC)
satsuma: a whole orange, a halved grapefruit, and two tangerine sections arranged into a still life (Default)
From: [personal profile] satsuma
I am having such a great time looking at everyone’s new tiny archives!

Now to start practicing my “feedback via secondary platform” skills…

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